Religious extremist? Where on earth did you get that idea? He was offended by her views, quite understandably, and he dealt with it in completely the wrong way. But I have not read not seen any evidence to suggest that he is any kind of 'religious extremist'. He is a Muslim. There is a difference.
And remember, people who do not support the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan are not nessecarily religious extremists. I have mixed views about these situations and I'm an atheist.
You don't really fully understand PwnDaddy. If you aren't in this situation with your country you can't feel how we do.
The English people are being treated unfair in their own country. The religious extremists can make any march of protest they like against US in our OWN country, yet if we do something similar in our OWN country, we will get arrested and probably fined a lot of money.
Just think of this. A religious extremists group in your country start to make an uproar about your soldiers, the soldiers who get shot when they try to keep peace in another country, and that group of extremists start to protest against your soldiers, ban YOUR religious holidays of YOUR own country, basically using your country as a door mat, and there is not one damn thing you can do to voice your words because you will probably get fined or even arrested for being a racist.
Comment by PwnDaddy123 on November 7, 2009 at 12:42am
Oh, I thought it was a Sole-Proprietorship. What they did then was probably against the rules then and they'll probably be consequences so I don't think they're going to let that one slide.
But to that whole Muslim extremist thing, you should understand that people have different views about different things and as long as they protest accordingly without implying any sort of violence then I think there's no problem. If a country is going to accept immigrants they should either let them intergrate the society giving them equal amount of freedom as the natives living there or just assimilate them.
PwnDaddy, ASDA is not a small 1 man company, its a massive multi-chain food supermarket in England. Just to get that in check :)
And this is different than a Jewish owner throwing out a nazi, this is in England, a woman supporting troops. And when a religious extremist person starts to kick up a fuss about this, in my own country, i get a little upset.
A while ago there was a parade supporting our troops, IN ENGLAND, and then a group of religious extremist, in this case it was the muslims, started kicking up a fuss, the people of the town started to protest against them to stop their disrespectful acts to our troops, and the English people were the ones who got in trouble!! This is getting out of order!
Awesome replies btw.
Comment by PwnDaddy123 on November 6, 2009 at 11:39pm
Maybe you're right Josh 'cause I'm referring to our rules here (Charter of Rights and Freedom (which is flawed)). I don't really know how it is elsewhere. But our rules are pretty common, I think we all have the whole "You're free but you're not exactly free" thing going on. But if I ignore the rules countries impose, I think the client should have left the store. The manager should have the right to kick whoever he wants out of his store, it's a bad business decision, but it's his choice. If I were a Jewish manager of a Jewish restaurant, the last thing I'd want is to serve someone who walked in with an SS uniform.
I'm pretty sure that in the UK they can refuse to serve you for any reason whatsoever, or just because they feel like it. Also security guards can throw you out of whatever property they're guarding (like, for example, shopping centres/malls, as they are private property) without any justification.
Although maybe if it is proven that they're discriminating against people based on things like race, sex, religion etc then it's a different matter? They could certainly get a whole lot of bad publicity.
I don't think so, I'm not sure if businesses can refuse to serve people depending on their race, sex or belief system. I may be wrong, but I have the idea that it's not permitted. I believe I might of seen that in the somewhere.
Comment by PwnDaddy123 on November 6, 2009 at 11:13pm
If you're going to perform a job, do it like you're suppose to. But I think you mentioned that the manager agreed with the muslim waiter. And if that's the situation, then the women should have just left. It's his business so he's allowed to choose who's in and who's out.
Kicking ass and taking names as usual. Awesome vlog Sophie!
As for the Muslim refusing to serve the woman with the, "Support the troops”, thing.
I have to say he shouldn't have let his personal beliefs or emotions interfere with the service he's paid to administer, weather he's in an secular country or in one where the majority of people are Muslims. The fact of the matter is, it's the duty of worker to do their jobs to the best of their abilities while remaining composed. That’s what we call being professional. As soon as you break this rule, you better have a damn good reason to do so. At times our personal vendettas get the best of us, but that kind of behavior is not acceptable in the workplace. This doesn’t mean he can’t be subjective, but merely that he must threat everyone with respect and humanity even if you have a bias towards that person or their beliefs.
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